Showing posts with label Research. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Research. Show all posts

Thursday, December 1, 2022

Thoughts on "Sugar on Your Coconut Oil?"

 Peter posted some interesting thoughts on obesity/NAFLD in a low-linoleic context. I posted the following as a comment over there, but wanted to surface it here. So read this first:

"Sugar on your coconut oil?"


Thanks for Parekh 1998, hadn't seen that one.

It raises a couple of thoughts.

Igarashi et al., 2015 (10.1016/j.bbalip.2015.05.006) found that sugar stimulated the endocannabinoid system, but to a less extent than LA, but via the same mechanism:

"Additionally, we report the unexpected finding that 7-day maintenance on a diet high in sucrose can also disable feeding-dependent OEA and LEA mobilization. The results suggest that FAE-mediated satiety signaling is suppressed by high fat or high sucrose in the diet, and that this suppression might contribute to hyperphagia and the development of obesity."

So if you have a high fat diet that's too low in LA, sucrose might substitute for it, in part.

Second, the other extra-mitochondrial LA obesity pathway is generation of the obesogen HNE, which of course only comes from LA and other n-6 fats. Cannizzaro et al., 2017 (10.1186/s12986-016-0149-z) measured the harm of a HFD (for maximal confusion, this is a High FRUCTOSE Diet):

“The level of HNE-modified proteins in plasma was increased almost 2-fold by HFD treatment, while RGZ completely normalized the level of HNE adducts (Fig. 6a).”

Which gets us back to Surwit. If you want to reduce the obesogenic effect of the Surwit diet, Chang et al., 2020 (10.21203/rs.3.rs-104384/v1) block the proliferation of HNE by stimulating the HNE detox pathway in the form of aldehyde dehydrogenase (ALDH):

“Importantly, the ALDH2 activator AD-9308 increased both the catalytic activity of WT and mutant enzyme, reduce serum 4-HNE levels, and effectively alleviated diet-induced obesity, fatty liver, insulin resistance, and glucose intolerance in both Aldh2-KI and WT mice in a dose-dependent manner.”

So sucrose/fructose is required to reduce the production of anti-obesogen OEA and stimulate production of obesogen HNE, in a low-LA environment?

The first and third of those posts are from my Obesity post.


Tuesday, November 8, 2022

How Seed Oils Make You Fat, with Tucker Goodrich and Jeff Nobbs—Fundamental Health with Dr. Paul Saladino


Another terrific discussion with Paul Saladino

"Today, Paul interviews Tucker Goodrich, Wall Street technology [exec] extraordinaire and independent researcher, and Jeff Nobbs, co-founder and CEO of Zero Acre Farms. They take a deep dive into the epidemic of seed oil consumption. They examine conflicting arguments, and then explain why seed oils are likely making humans fat, diabetic, and causing atherosclerosis."

Embedded video:


Podcast:


We discuss these two posts on Zero Acre's website:

"How Vegetable Oils Make Us Fat"

"Seed Oils as a Driver of Heart Disease"

Jeff has retained me as a paid consultant to Zero Acre to help him and his team develop content like this to spread the news about the health issues with industrial seed oils. As such, I thought it was important, when Paul reached out to me initially, to include Jeff. 

He's the real deal, he's doing this because he understands it and believes in it, and he and the Zero Acre team want to make sure we get the science right.

It's an excellent discussion, I think. Enjoy!

Monday, November 7, 2022

"A Clue to Rheumatoid Arthritis"

Yeesh. Are there any known endogenous antigens that mimic bacterial infection? And that are *already* known to be involved in Rheumatoid Arthritis? Beuller... Beuller...

Link via AAAS: Keyword search for query

Here's the clue:

Are Seed Oils Inflammatory?

 tl:dr; Yes. This deserves a longer post, and will get it at some point, but for now this will have to do.

Gil Carvalho, a vegan MD/PhD, has a video out titled "Are Seed Oils Inflammatory?! (The *Evidence* No One Shows)" which I have not watched, and will not watch.

Carvalho is a movement vegan, and as such is presumed to be dishonest, based on the experience of myself and others (detailed here, here, and here on this blog).

But this video he has done seems to be misleading people about this topic, which is the intent, of course.

As I pointed out on Twitter, even Harvard has come around on this topic. 

The only folks who are arguing that seed oils are NOT inflammatory are movement vegans, the flat-earthers of nutrition science.

Brad Marshall of Fire in a Bottle did watch the video, and did a nice analysis of the "misrepresentation" and "low-quality evidence" Carvahlo uses. Watch the whole thing. I did.


(Brad goes through a number of studies I was not aware of, and which I will need to follow up on. Really some excellent work by Brad here. We need to get Brad some white-board software!)

Brad also has a post on this: 


There's not much left to discuss, but there was one point I didn't think Brad handled fully.

At the beginning of Brad's discussion of Carvalho's video talks about a strawman argument concerning arachidonic acid and inflammation. That rang a bell.

One thing about these movement vegans: they all recycle the same arguments. Walter Willett or Dariush Mozaffarian make some bogus point, and they all latch on to it and recycle it for years. 

So here's a rebuttal I made on this argument a while back. From Brad's video with Carvalho's excerpts, it appears to be the same misleading nonsense.

My conclusion to this section applies to Carvalho as well, even more, as he is a medical doctor.

All this evidence was available when he wrote that. One can only conclude he’s completely unaware of the evidence on this subject. Spreading misinformation about an important health topic like this is not helpful and may prevent many people from undertaking an intervention that could provide significant benefits, as in these migraine sufferers.

Inflammation

Finally, we start to get to some actual science, and some claims we can evaluate beyond “no evidence provided!”:

“Let’s start with inflammation. The putative mechanism with regard to inflammation is that the omega-6 linoleic acid [LA] acts as a precursor to arachidonic acid [AA]; AA acts a substrate to form eicosanoids, and the eicosanoids AA is used to form may be pro-inflammatory. Ergo, as the logic goes, increasing PUFA – particularly LA – increases inflammation.”

Well, that’s not the most logical starting point, as one generally doesn’t start in the middle of the story, and of course he doesn’t quote anyone actually saying this.  He continues:

“Except there is no evidence that either increasing or decreasing LA levels alters levels of AA in humans. A review of 36 human intervention studies [his link to (Rett & Whelan, 2011)] highlighted that neither increasing LA levels by up to 551%, or decreasing LA levels by 90%, altered concentrations of AA in plasma, serum, or red blood cells [erythrocytes], despite increasing LA intake resulting in increased membrane phospholipid LA content. Putative mechanism does not = biological effect. The following illustration helps to illustrate why:”

Image from (Flanagan 2020bRed notation mine.

See diagram to right (provenance unknown, he does not list a reference, but as it does not represent what he describes it as representing—see D6D—it’s unlikely that he created it).

This is, believe it or not, a necessarily drastically over-simplified version of metabolism and inflammatory pathways in which n-6 is involved! It leaves out quite a few well-recognized inflammatory pathways, however.

As that image makes clear, there are many different pathways, not just the one Flanagan provides the studies for. (Yes, this begins to look like another strawman, but we’re not keeping track!)

So let’s start by looking backwards, from the most well-recognized and effective marker/mediator of inflammation, C-reactive protein (CRP) (Watson et al., 2019)—which is not in the image above. CRP isn’t just a marker, it’s an active player in the body’s immune system:

“...it can be said that CRP possesses the functionality of a host defense molecule against not only atherosclerosis but against all diseases caused by proteins when proteins behave like a pathogen or a toxic molecule, in a life cycle that begins as free CRP in circulation and ends in ligand-bound mCRP at sites of inflammation...” (Singh & Agrawal, 2019)

Oxidized LDL (oxLDL) is such a toxic molecule, and indeed one of the roles of CRP is to bind to oxLDL and help remove it:

Figure 1 from (Deleanu et al.,2016),
showing oxidation of n-6 fats in oxLDL.

"...CRP also binds to the PC moiety of oxidized phosphatidylcholine [PtC] present in OxLDL and apoptotic cells, where CRP triggers the early steps of the classical complement pathway..."

“In addition, CRP only bound to unsaturated PtC in proportion to their degree of oxidation and unsaturation (Fig. 2A) and did not bind to the saturated PtC even if exposed to the same oxidizing conditions (Fig. 2A)." (Chang et al., 2002)

We’ve known since the 1980s that what is oxidizing in LDL is n-6 fats, (Deleanu et al., 2016) and:

“The nature of the substrate for lipid peroxidation, mainly the polyunsaturated fatty acids in lipid esters and cholesterol, is a dominant influence in determining susceptibility. As noted by Esterbauer et al. (52), there is a vast excess of polyunsaturated fatty acids in LDL, in relationship to the content of natural, endogenous antioxidants. The importance of the fatty acid composition was impressively demonstrated by our recent studies of rabbits fed a diet high in linoleic acid (18:2) or in oleic acid (18:1) for a period of 10 wk. LDL isolated from the animals on oleic acid-rich diet were greatly enriched in oleate and low in linoleate. This LDL was remarkably resistant to oxidative modification, measured either by direct parameters of lipid peroxidation (i.e., TBARS and conjugated dienes) or by the indirect criterion of uptake by macrophages (53)….

“In a recent study, human volunteers were fed a similar oleic acid-rich diet. When their
LDL was tested for susceptibility to oxidative modification, it was reduced albeit to a lesser degree than that noted in the rabbit studies (54). These studies demonstrate the feasibility of dietary modification of LDL fatty acid content in order to reduce its susceptibility to modification.”
  (Witztum & Steinberg, 1991)

Multiple studies have confirmed that dietary manipulation can alter the fatty-acid composition of LDL, and hence its susceptibility to oxidation (Abbey et al., 1993Hargrove et al., 2001Parthasarathy et al., 1990Reaven et al.,1994Spiteller & Spiteller, 2000).

Thus:

“In conclusion, our data show that Ox-LDL and hs-CRP levels correlate positively in ACS [acute coronary syndrome] patients, supporting the hypothesis that Ox-LDL and CRP may play a direct role in promoting the inflammatory component of atherosclerosis in these individuals.” (Zhang et al., 2012)

Table 4 from (Bemelmans et al., 2004) Image cropped to focus on CRP.


Notably, while CRP is a reaction to inflammation, oxLDL is a cause of inflammation, due to its oxidized, dietarily induced n-6 fats (Hao et al., 2015Kennedy et al., 2011Norris et al., 2011Que et al., 2018Shapira & Pinchasov, 2008Stiekema et al., 2019van der Valk Fleur M. etal., 2016Witztum, 2002) and ad nauseum, if you are interested.

So where does this get us as to diet and inflammation? (Bemelmans et al., 2004) looked at the question directly:

“Because of the lower CRP level, the present results suggest that a six-fold increased ALA intake may have anti-inflammatory effects, when investigated against an LA-rich background diet.”

While (Su et al., 2017) performed a systematic review and meta-analysis of RCTs in humans and found:

“However, in subjects with greater increase in LA intake, LA tends to increase the blood concentration of CRP.”

Attribution for CRP and OxLDL images at end.


There are a number of caveats and conditions which are not discussed here, and a discussion of the scope of the inflammation induced via oxLDL is outside the need for a simple proof that it happens, QED.

So let’s go back to Flanagan. After introducing his little diagram above and his supporting studies, he states:

“This is where the buck just stops for the inflammation argument. There is no evidence that the putative mechanism is operative, nor that there is an inflammatory effect of dietary LA in actual Homo Sapiens.”

Well. Obviously that’s wrong.

Let’s discuss another pathway, demonstration of which is a little less involved than the above, although crucial, path from dietary LA to CRP. This pathway, unlike the rather more obvious one above, is in his diagram.

“Does inflammation have a role in migraine?”

“Migraine is a prevalent disorder, affecting 15.1% of the world’s population…. We propose that the increase in migraine frequency leading to chronic migraine involves neurogenic neuroinflammation, possibly entailing increased expression of cytokines via activation of protein kinases in neurons and glial cells of the trigeminovascular system.” (Edvinsson et al., 2019)

This hypothesis was tested, in an animal model of course (we will get to why an animal model) in 2020:

“In preclinical models, HODEsEpOMEs and DiHOMEs have been observed to participate in numerous (patho)physiological processes during inflammatory pain including mechanical and thermal hyperalgesia [excess pain]… We demonstrate two 11-hydroxy-epoxides increased proportions of responsive TNs [trigeminal neurons] in a concentration-dependent fashion, similar to PGE2. Further investigation revealed that exposure produced Ca2+ responses with high potency, at μM range, comparable to well-known pain mediators, LA and 9-HODE (Patwardhan et al., 2010, 2009).” (Doolen et al., 2020)


Here’s Flanagan’s diagram again, this time with the emphasized terms above circled. (I also highlighted soluble epoxy hydrolase (sEH), as this will be mentioned later):

Incidentally, LA is a “well-known pain mediator”? Hmm…

Now, they’re using “our rodent friends” here because they already demonstrated that reducing dietary linoleic acid in humans (and increasing n-3) reduces headache/migraine pain. In science, when one notices an effect in humans, one attempts to find out via an animal model what the mechanism is (Flanagan would probably still find this “odd”):

“In this randomized trial, the combination of increasing dietary n-3 fatty acids with concurrent reduction in n-6 LA (the H3-L6 intervention) produced statistically significant, clinically relevant improvements in headache hours per day, severe headache days, and headache-related quality of life compared to baseline, and compared to the n-6-lowering (L6) intervention. Prior to the intervention, this chronic headache population averaged 23 headache days per month and 10 headache hours per day, despite using an average of 6 different headache-related medications per subject.” (Ramsden, Zamora, et al., 2013b)

Now, before one jumps to the conclusion that it was the n-3 fats that had the effect and not the n-6 lowering, let’s look at another study, (Pradalier et al., 2001). The title will suffice, I think: “Failure of omega-3 polyunsaturated fatty acids in prevention of migraine: a double-blind study versus placebo.”

(While it’s outside the scope of this discussion, it’s important to note that the n-3 and n-6 fats interact, via some of the pathways above, and that increasing n-3 can replace n-6 in tissue, provided you also lower n-6. That may explain these results.)

“We hypothesized that hyperactive metabolism of n-6 linoleic (n-6 LA) and arachidonic (n-6 AA) acids, and insufficient metabolism of n-3 eicosapentaenoic (n-3 EPA) and docosahexaenoic (n-3 DHA) acids, contribute to headache pathogenesis."

The success of (Ramsden, Zamora, et al., 2013b) has led to a further, much larger, test detailed in (Mann et al., 2018), which is ongoing.

One of the really interesting findings in the study was:

“As expected, the L6 intervention reduced erythrocyte n-6 LA and a number of its pronociceptive [pro-pain] derivatives compared to baseline. Unexpectedly, the L6 intervention also reduced a number of pronociceptive HETEs compared to baseline, despite no change in their precursor n-6 AA in erythrocytes.”

So what this tells us is that Flanagan’s argument, that since AA didn’t change in blood, there was no effect possible on inflammation, was wrong.

“Although biochemical effects were less pronounced compared to the H3-L6 group, this L6 intervention did significantly alter erythrocyte fatty acids and their bioactive derivatives in a manner that we hypothesized would reduce pain.”

AA quantity seems to be tightly regulated in serum. Those studies were correct. But there are many other studies showing that the downstream metabolites of AA, like these HETEs, are still affected by dietary LA. This has been demonstrated in many other conditions with inflammatory components, which are outside the scope of this discussion.

I highlighted sEH in Flanagan’s diagram, because it was discovered by Bruce D. Hammock (Kodani & Hammock, 2015), who recently said:

“Seventy-five percent, by weight, of the drugs sold in the world work on a single pathway called the arachidonic cascade, where arachidonic acid is converted by cyclooxygenase into prostaglandins, which are strongly pro-inflammatory.” (Rice, 2020)

That’s the pathway detailed in Flanagan’s diagram. Overstimulation of that pathway arguably, is our biggest health problem. Aspirin, for instance, prescribed for cardiovascular disease prevention, works on that pathway. Obviously, one of the most common uses for drugs like aspirin is headache.

Hammock further commented, in a recent podcast:

"So we've got... a very fine-tuned biochemical system and we've sort of thrown the monkey wrench into it by eating too much of a good thing with [linoleic acid]." (Gornoski, 2021)

What was it Flanagan said again?

“This is where the buck just stops for the inflammation argument. There is no evidence that the putative mechanism is operative, nor that there is an inflammatory effect of dietary LA in actual Homo Sapiens.”

All this evidence was available when he wrote that. One can only conclude he’s completely unaware of the evidence on this subject. Spreading misinformation about an important health topic like this is not helpful and may prevent many people from undertaking an intervention that could provide significant benefits, as in these migraine sufferers.

Here's the post this discussion on Inflammation is from:

Thoughts on 'Of Rats and Sidney Diet Heart...', Alan Flanagan's Post Defending Seed Oils

Friday, October 21, 2022

Should the FDA Exist? and Heart Disease Linked to Seed Oils—A Neighbor's Choice with David Gornoski

Nice Friday evening discussion. Thank you David!

"David Gornoski is joined by Tucker Goodrich and the two comment on the CDC’s unscientific pushing of the vaccines; the legitimacy of the VAERS system; the legitimacy of the FDA and the CDC; EcoHealth Alliance receiving more grants; seed oil consumption and the rise of coronary heart disease; whether sugar contributes to cardiovascular disease; and more."
Visit A Neighbor's Choice website at https://aneighborschoice.com"

Radio, so no video this time. Podcast:
 

Do Seed Oils Cause Heart Disease?

tl:dr—Seed oils are associated, and probably causal, in cardiovascular disease.

"Figure 3. Mendelian randomization analysis. A significant deviation from zero of the estimate of causal effect using all SNPs (solid red line) suggests a causal relationship between the metabolite and CHD." (Ganna et al., 2014)

Oh dear. So sorry... *

"The Mendelian randomization analysis... suggested a weak, but positive causal effect of MG 18:2 on CHD risk (odds ratio, 1.05... per SD increment in MG 18:2; P-value = 0.05) and a lack of causal effect for LysoPC 18:1, 18:2 and SM 28:1."

Even worse:

"...In the multivariable analysis for association with CHD, we separately included two covariates in addition to the main cardiovascular risk factors: [CRP] and statin treatment. The associations between the four metabolites and incident CHD were essentially the same...

"Lysophosphatidylcholines were negatively associated with BMI, markers of inflammations and subclinical cardiovascular disease, while a reverse pattern was observed for MG 18:2."

“We found evidences [sic] for a causal effect of MG 18:2 on CHD independently of triglycerides levels."

And: "We observed a strong positive association between MG 18:2 and CHD."

So what are they saying? A few terms, so you can understand the jargon:

  • Mendellian randomization is a way of correlating observational (epidemiological) data cross-referenced to genetic data. This is supposed to establish “causation” using epidemiology. **
  • MG 18:2 is monoglyceride linoleic acid (LA, chemical symbol C18:2). Linoleic acid attached to a glycerol molecule, in other words.
    LA is the most common fat found in seed oils. Fats are generally consumed as either triglycerides or phospholipids, in this case two fats have been removed from a tri-glyceride, leaving one, a mono-glyceride.
  • CHD is coronary heart disease.
  • CRP is c-reactive protein, part of the body’s inflammatory response, and used as a marker of inflammation.
  • Phosphatidylcholines (PC) are a way of packaging fats, used extensively in the body’s cellular membranes. Tri-, di-, or mono-glycerides attach three, two, or one fat(s) to a glyceride backbone, here two fats are attached to a choline backbone. You’ve heard of lecithin? This is the chemical name for lecithin.
  • Lysophosphatidylcholine (LysoPC) is a PC from which one fat has been removed.

So they looked at metabolites of various things in the body (Metabolomics) and found a correlation between a form of linoleic acid (LA) and heart disease. LA is generally found in triglycerides (TG), but here they found the association with TG was weaker than that of LA with heart disease. TG is an established risk factor for heart disease.

Moreover they found that this effect became stronger as the amount of LA increased: “a weak, but positive causal effect of MG 18:2 on CHD risk (odds ratio, 1.05... per SD [standard deviation] increment in MG 18:2…” This is known as a dose-response, and suggests that causation is present (criteria 5 in the Bradford Hill list of criteria for determining possible causation from observed data).

More:

"Several observations suggest an involvement of MG 18:2 in the pathogenesis of CHD. First, MG 18:2 is central in the synthesis and breakdown of triglycerides and a causal effect of plasma triglyceride levels on CHD risk have recently been supported by a large Mendelian randomization analysis [11]. Although highly correlated, when both MG 18:2 and triglycerides were included in the same model, both showed independent significant associations with CHD. Moreover, when separately added to a model with main cardiovascular risk factors, MG 18:2 was a better predictor of CHD than triglycerides. Second, MG 18:2 was associated with higher levels of cardiovascular risk factors and markers of subclinical CVD and oxidative stress. Third, Mendelian randomization analysis suggested a weak, but positive causal effect of MG 18:2 on CHD risk. Several SNPs reported for association with CHD remained associated with MG 18:2 (in the PCSK9, HHIPL1, PLG, ApoE/ApoC1, COL4A1/COL4A2 regions, P-values,0.05), even after adj. for main cardiovascular risk factors.”

"Our study has several strengths. To our knowledge, this is the largest study investigating the metabolome in relation to incident CHD."

"In conclusion, in the largest study of the metabolome in relation to incident CHD to date, we identified [LysoPC]s 18:1, 18:2, monoglyceride 18:2 and sphingomyelin 28:1 as risk factors of coronary heart disease and suggested a causal effect for monoglyceride 18:2 on CHD."

So much for the claims there’s no epidemiology supporting the hypothesis that LA from seed oils is causal in heart disease.

"Large-scale metabolomic profiling identifies novel biomarkers for incident coronary heart disease" (Ganna et al., 2014)

Of course linoleic acid is hardly "novel"... The link between LA and heart disease goes all the way back to the 1950s:

“Our results are in accord with the recent work of [(Böttcher et al., 1960)] who showed conclusively that human atherosclerotic plaques have a high content of linoleic acid which increases with the severity of the disease….

“This result would support the view that linoleic acid is essential for the production of atherosclerotic plaques.” (Gresham & Howard, 1961)

If you want more information on the link between seed oil and heart disease, see our work here (Zero Acre Editorial Team, 2022)

I discussed with Prof. Tom Brenna the importance of choline and phospholipids in the metabolism of fat in the body (Goodrich,2022), and I find it very interesting that the correlations between LA in phospholipid form (LysoPC 18:2) and triglyceride form (MG 18:2) is different. Monoglycerides can have very distinct effects on the body (Poursharifiet al., 2017), this may be such a case.

So what's the most messed up thing about this analysis?

They never mention the word "linoleic," or any part of it.

I found this while pulling threads, I never would have found it looking for any useful search term.

* Came across this paper today, while working on something concerning diabetes (Al-Sariet al., 2021). Really, you shouldn’t have to dig into something like this (ChEBITeam, 2018) to find a pretty important paper, but the Tower of Babel story is true in every important way, except perhaps for not actually having happened.

** I have some serious issues with MR, which I will not go into here, but since I have been told that there is no evidence using MR that LA causes CVD, I found this satisfying.

References

Al-Sari, N., Schmidt, S., Suvitaival, T., Kim, M., Trošt, K., Ranjan, A. G., Christensen, M. B., Overgaard, A. J., Pociot, F., Nørgaard, K., & Legido-Quigley, C. (2021). Changes in the lipidome in type 1 diabetes following low carbohydrate diet: Post-hoc analysis of a randomized crossover trial. Endocrinology, Diabetes & Metabolism, 4(2), e00213. https://doi.org/10.1002/edm2.213

Böttcher, C. J. F., Woodford, F. P., Romeny-Wachter, C. C. T., Houte, E. B., & Gent, C. M. V. (1960). Fatty-Acid Distribution In Lipids Of The Aortic Wall. The Lancet, 275(7139), 1378–1383. https://doi.org/10.1016/S0140-6736(60)91153-3

ChEBI Team. (2018). Phosphatidylcholine 35:4 (CHEBI:91322) [Informational]. European Molecular Biology Laboratory; Chemical Entities of Biological Interest. https://www.ebi.ac.uk/chebi/searchId.do?chebiId=CHEBI:91322#25502724

Ganna, A., Salihovic, S., Sundström, J., Broeckling, C. D., Hedman, A. K., Magnusson, P. K. E., Pedersen, N. L., Larsson, A., Siegbahn, A., Zilmer, M., Prenni, J., Arnlöv, J., Lind, L., Fall, T., & Ingelsson, E. (2014). Large-scale metabolomic profiling identifies novel biomarkers for incident coronary heart disease. PLoS Genetics, 10(12), e1004801. https://doi.org/10.1371/journal.pgen.1004801

Goodrich, T. D. (2022, September 1). Podcast Ep. 5: Prof. Tom Brenna on Omega-3 and Omega-6 in Human Health—with Dr Brian Kerley [Blog]. Yelling Stop. http://yelling-stop.blogspot.com/2022/09/podcast-ep-5-prof-tom-brenna-on-omega-3.html

Gresham, G. A., & Howard, A. N. (1961). The Effect of Dietary Fats and Synthetic Glycerides on the Production of Atherosclerosis and Thrombosis in the Rat. British Journal of Experimental Pathology, 42(2), 166–170. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2082415/

Poursharifi, P., Madiraju, S. R. M., & Prentki, M. (2017). Monoacylglycerol signalling and ABHD6 in health and disease. Diabetes, Obesity & Metabolism, 19 Suppl 1, 76–89. https://doi.org/10.1111/dom.13008

Zero Acre Editorial Team. (2022, August 12). Seed Oils as a Driver of Heart Disease [Advertisement]. Zero Acre. https://www.zeroacre.com//white-papers/seed-oils-as-a-driver-of-heart-disease

 

Sunday, June 5, 2022

“Dr. David Klurfeld on Meat NOT Causing Cancer, Bogus Vegetarian Scientists, and Balanced Nutrition.”—Interviewed by Brian Sanders on Peak Human

Introduction

Somehow I missed this video and podcast when they came out. I just happened upon them recently, serendipitously (Sanders, 2019, 2020). Brian lists Dr. Klurfeld's credentials as:

"David Klurfeld is the National Program Leader for Human Nutrition in the Agricultural Research Service of the USDA. He was Editor-in-Chief of the Journal of the American College of Nutrition for 6 years and is currently Associate Editor of the American Journal for Clinical Nutrition."

So not exactly a lightweight in the field. 

Friday, May 6, 2022

Podcast Ep. 2: Professor Ameer Taha on Lipid Oxidation, Linoleic Acid, OXLAMS—Debugging Life Podcast

 


I interview Prof. Ameer Taha of U.C. Davis on linoleic acid, lipid peroxidation, oxLAMs, and neurodegeneration.

A great discussion going over some of the seminal research he has done during his career. 

We also discuss his surprising dream research project, one I think would yield major benefits if he were able to pursue it... 

Video:

Audio:

This was originally released on David Gornoski's A Neighbor's Choice podcast: https://aneighborschoice.com/professor-ameer-taha-on-lipid-oxidation-linoleic-acid-oxlams/ 

My thanks to David for permission to re-release it here. 

Please subscribe if you find this topic interesting! 

My audio podcast link is here: 
https://sites.libsyn.com/408758

My YouTube channel is here:
https://youtu.be/rk9NnC7bS3U

Here is Prof. Taha's page at U.C. Davis: 

Here's his PubMed research: 

And his most recent (one I will be reading as soon as I finish posting this!): 

"Polyunsaturated fatty acids and fatty acid-derived lipid mediators: Recent advances in the understanding of their biosynthesis, structures, and functions" 

P.S. Links above fixed where needed.

Monday, April 11, 2022

Interview: Dr. William Li on Angiogenesis, Diet, and Chronic Disease—A Neighbor's Choice with David Gornoski

 This turned out to be quite an interesting interview, much more so than I had anticipated. I think in some ways it's the best interview David and I have done.

"William Li MD on Seed Oils, Cancer, and Food as Medicine"

"David Gornoski and Tucker Goodrich sit down with Dr. William Li, an internationally renowned physician, scientist, and author of the New York Times bestseller Eat to Beat Disease. The discussion revolves around why we are seeing cancer rates skyrocketing in the US, anti-VEGF treatment for neovascular eye disease, seed oil consumption, the cause of angiogenesis dysregulation, the right diet for a strong immune system, and more."
Video:
 

Podcast: 


Book Review: "Eat to Beat Disease" by Dr. William Li

EAT TO BEAT DISEASE shows you how to integrate the foods you already love into any diet or health plan to activate your body’s health defense systems —Angiogenesis, Regeneration, the Microbiome, DNA Protection, and Immunity —to fight cancer, cardiovascular disease, diabetes, neurodegenerative disease, autoimmune disease, and other debilitating conditions.”

Friday, April 1, 2022

Podcast Ep. 0: What VICE Left Out: Bitcoin and Seed Oils—Starting a Podcast

 


Back in February, Dr. K, the Seed Oil Disrespecter on Twitter, was contacted by Audrey Carleton, a reporter for the news website VICE. She had some questions about why the seed oil topic had become a 'big thing' in the bitcoin world. He mentioned me as being knowledgeable about the seed oil and health topic, and suggested I reach out to her.

Click to see full discussion.

I did, and we had a nice chat, although it probably went on longer than she was expecting. I've often heard it's wise to record conversations with journalists, and we did so via Zoom, to which she agreed.

We had a pleasant enough conversation, and she listened to me at length (~48 minutes).

I followed up with a bunch of references to some of the scientific evidence we had discussed (see that link for the file I sent her, references below), and offered to send more.

She didn't get back to me for any follow-up discussion, and then finally the article came out:


I'll not editorialize about the many problems with that article, but the major one is they never addressed the research from institutions like the NIH and the AHA showing that there are credible reasons to think that the benefits of seed oils are oversold, and that there are real reasons to fear harmful effects.
"Misinformation is a two-edged sword in the seed oil debate, however. Figureheads like Shanahan, after all, believe that most mainstream dietary guidance around fat consumption is built on lies, the kind that have quietly fueled America’s major health epidemics for decades. Like Bitcoin itself, the anti-seed oil stance reflects a skepticism of authority, one that is often not unfounded in the least but which can quickly snowball, echoed and amplified online."
It's rather routine at this time for journalists to spread misinformation while pretending to be preventing it, and this is a perfect example of that.

So I am presenting here the full discussion I had with VICE, so you can be the judge yourself of the value of what they elected to leave out while claiming that being concerned about seed oils is "misinformation".



Journalists have editors, and many publications have clear—often unadmitted—editorial biases. I have no particular reason to think that Audrey wrote the bias into this story, so I won't blame her for it. I appreciate the time that she took to speak to me.

I do blame VICE, however, which I think is fair. They printed a biased, misleading article, while ignoring that there are valid scientific reasons to think seed oils are problematic.

I'm glad they left my name out of it.

Podcast

Incidentally, I have decided to start a podcast. Consider this episode 0.

In 2000 I and all the readers of Dave Winer's Scripting News blog were invited to a dinner at  Katz's Delicatessen in New York City (yes, from When Harry Met Sally), to discuss a neat idea that former MTV video jockey Adam Curry had to distribute audio files via the RSS feed that Dave was maintaining and extending. 

There were 5 or 6 people present, including Dave and Adam.

From this dinner (I had a Reuben: pastrami on rye bread, as I recall) sprang forth the idea of the podcast.

So better late than never, I suppose! More details to follow, but please subscribe (either via YouTube or the RSS feed here.



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Black, H. S., Thornby, J. I., Gerguis, J., & Lenger, W. (1992). Influence of Dietary Omega-6, -3 Fatty Acid Sources on the Initiation and Promotion Stages of Photocarcinogenesis. Photochemistry and Photobiology, 56(2), 195–199. https://doi.org/10.1111/j.1751-1097.1992.tb02147.x
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Monday, March 28, 2022

"My Big Fat Panel: How Seed Oils Cause Obesity" on A Neighbor's Choice with David Gornoski

David put together a very interesting panel, with Ray Peat, Peter Dobromylskyj, Cate Shanahan, Brad Marshall, and myself discussing the role of seed oils in causing obesity.

"David Gornoski sits down with Dr. Cate Shanahan, Dr. Ray Peat, Tucker Goodrich, Brad Marshall, and Dr. Petro Dobromylskyj. The conversation revolves around the question of what causes obesity. What explains the correlation between seed oil consumption and rising obesity in America? If obesity is a signaler, what is it saying? Listen to the full episode as these questions and more are explored from different perspectives."

Here's the video: 

And here's the audio link.

I've written about this at length, of course, "Does Linoleic Acid Induce Obesity? A Response to Stephan Guyenet, Part 1" and Part 2.

Additionally, I presented a much shorter version of those two posts at the Zero Acre Farm Future of Fat summit, here:


P.S. Here's Peter's take on it, which I agree with.