Thursday, July 8, 2021

Interview: Thomas Seyfried on Glioblastoma, Metabolic Cancer Breakthroughs, with David Gornoski on A Neighbor's Choice

"Dr. Thomas Seyfried, Tucker Goodrich, David Gornoski on Glioblastoma, Metabolic Cancer Breakthroughs" 

"Continuing our exciting overthrow of failed sacred cows with science-driven conversation on health and nutrition, David Gornoski and Tucker Goodrich are joined by Dr. Thomas Seyfried, the leading researcher of the metabolic theory of cancer. Prof. Seyfried of Boston College talks about the experience of Pablo Kelly who treated his brain cancer with ketogenic diet. Is Dr. Seyfried's method compatible with Dr. Lisanti's way of treating cancer? Is cancer a genetic disease? Why is metabolic therapy only considered as a last measure for cancer and epileptic patients after standardized treatments fail? What is the role of Cardiolipin in the cell and how does Cardiolipin damage affect us? How can we stop Cardiolipin damage? 
"Visit Dr. Seyfried's website at https://www.tomseyfried.com 
"For more content by David Gornoski visit https://www.aneighborschoice.com

Here's a link to the podcast, and here's an embedded player:

Here are most of the show notes, which will also be updated (If you listen to it at real speed, I will probably finish before you do!).

And in today's news: "Feasibility and Biological Activity of a Ketogenic/Intermittent-Fasting Diet in Patients With Glioma".


Show notes:

Pablo Kelly case report (Seyfried et al., 2021)

Media stories (Davies, 2016; Dodd, 2017; “Fighting for Survival -Pablo Battles Brain Tumour with Ketogenic Diet and Healthy Doses ofDetermination and Positivity,” 2016)

Glioblastoma prognosis: “…without any treatment you can expect to live between 8 and 14 months.” (Bailey & Cushing, 1926)

“Current Standards of Care in Glioblastoma Therapy” (Fernandes et al., 2017)

“…showing precisely how Standard of Care contributes to the rapid demise of the patients…” (Seyfried et al., 2019)

IDH1 mutation (Li et al., 2019)

“If you have a tumor, you should never irradiate somebody’s brain! It’s insane! I published a very clear article on this…” TK

Cancer treatment fails (Horgan, 2019)

Cancer depends on glutamine (Seyfried, 2011)

Mutations don’t cause cancer (Sonnenschein & Soto, 2000)

Mitochondrial transfer experiments in cancerous cells (Zampieri et al., 2021)

P53 gene mutations (Baugh et al., 2018) and effects on mitochondria (Moulder et al., 2018)

Warburg effect and metabolic hypothesis for cancer (Seyfried, 2015)

Substrate-Level Phosphorylation (Chinopoulos & Seyfried, 2018)

ATP Synthesis and cancer (Seyfried et al., 2020)

“Michael Lisanti Interview on His Breakthrough Antibiotic Solution for Cancer Metastasis, ATP” (Gornoski, 2021, 2021)

“Nothing in Biology Makes Sense Except in the Light of Evolution” (Dobzhansky, 1973)

Evolutionary concepts of default and quiescent states (Sonnenschein & Soto, 2000)

PD-L1 Inhibitors and patient mortality:

“Findings:  In this systematic review and meta-analysis of 125 clinical trials involving 20 128 patients, the overall incidences of all-grade adverse events were 66.0% and of grade 3 or higher adverse events were 14.0%. The overall mean adverse event incidences were similar across different cancer types but varied between different drugs.” (Wang et al., 2019)

Efficacy and research base of ketogenic diet in cancer (Colin Champ) (Haskins et al., 2020; Klement et al., 2017)

Ketogenic diet as a first-line therapy (in epilepsy) (Kossoff, 2010)

Unknown mechanism for metformin (Vial et al., 2019)

Cardiolipin and cancer (53:49) (Kiebish et al., 2008, 2010; Seyfried, 2015; Ta et al., 2014)

Barth syndrome (Peter & Bellcross, 2019)

“Alzheimer's Disease is Associated with Decreased Risk of Cancer-Specific Mortality” (Romero et al., 2014)

Veech “superfuel” (Cahill & Veech, 2003)

Jim Abrahams and the Charlie Foundation (Abrahams, 2018)

...I ran out of time and energy at 1 hour through the interview. End of show notes.

 And in today's news: "Feasibility and Biological Activity of a Ketogenic/Intermittent-Fasting Diet in Patients With Glioma". (Schreck et al., 2021)

References:

Abrahams, J. (2018, August 29). Charlie’s Story [Informational]. CURE Epilepsy. https://www.cureepilepsy.org/personal_stories/charlies-story/

Bailey, P., & Cushing, H. (1926). A Classification of the Tumors of the Glioma Group on a Histogenetic Basis with a Correlated Study of Prognosis. J.B. Lippincott.

Baugh, E. H., Ke, H., Levine, A. J., Bonneau, R. A., & Chan, C. S. (2018). Why are there hotspot mutations in the TP53 gene in human cancers? Cell Death & Differentiation, 25(1), 154–160. https://doi.org/10.1038/cdd.2017.180

Cahill, G. F., & Veech, R. L. (2003). Ketoacids? Good medicine? Transactions of the American Clinical and Climatological Association, 114, 149–161; discussion 162-163. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2194504/

Chinopoulos, C., & Seyfried, T. N. (2018). Mitochondrial Substrate-Level Phosphorylation as Energy Source for Glioblastoma: Review and Hypothesis. ASN Neuro, 10, 1759091418818261. https://doi.org/10.1177/1759091418818261

Davies, M. (2016, July 15). Terminal cancer patient claims giving up CARBS kept him alive. Mail Online. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-3691808/Quitting-carbs-saved-life-Cancer-victim-given-months-live-refuses-chemo-claims-diet-meat-dairy-s-alive-two-years-later.html

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Dodd, R. (2017, August 11). This man had his brain tumour cut out while he was still awake. PlymouthLive. http://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/news/local-news/man-brain-tumour-cut-out-316430

Fernandes, C., Costa, A., Osório, L., Lago, R. C., Linhares, P., Carvalho, B., & Caeiro, C. (2017). Current Standards of Care in Glioblastoma Therapy. In S. De Vleeschouwer (Ed.), Glioblastoma. Codon Publications. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK469987/

Fighting for survival—Pablo battles brain tumour with ketogenic diet and healthy doses of determination and positivity. (2016, July 5). Dartmouth Chronicle. http://www.dartmouth-today.co.uk/article.cfm?id=104128&headline=Fighting%20for%20survival%20-%20Pablo%20battles%20brain%20tumour%20with%20ketogenic%20diet%20and%20healthy%20doses%20of%20determination%20and%20positivity&sectionIs=news&searchyear=2016

Gornoski, D. (2021, June 9). Michael Lisanti Interview on His Breakthrough Antibiotic Solution for Cancer Metastasis, ATP. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljw7QfWkqco&t=3s

Gornoski, D. (2021, June 9). Michael Lisanti Interview on His Breakthrough Antibiotic Solution for Cancer Metastasis, ATP (No. 2021-06–10) [Mp3]. https://aneighborschoice.com/michael-lisanti-interview-on-his-breakthrough-antibiotic-solution-for-cancer-metastasis-atp/

Haskins, C. P., Champ, C. E., Miller, R., & Vyfhuis, M. A. L. (2020). Nutrition in Cancer: Evidence and Equality. Advances in Radiation Oncology, 5(5), 817–823. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.adro.2020.05.008

Horgan, J. (2019, August 1). Cancer Medicine Is Failing Us [Blog]. Scientific American Blog Network. https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/cross-check/cancer-medicine-is-failing-us/

Kiebish, M. A., Bell, R., Yang, K., Phan, T., Zhao, Z., Ames, W., Seyfried, T. N., Gross, R. W., Chuang, J. H., & Han, X. (2010). Dynamic simulation of cardiolipin remodeling: Greasing the wheels for an interpretative approach to lipidomics [S]. Journal of Lipid Research, 51(8), 2153–2170. https://doi.org/10.1194/jlr.M004796

Kiebish, M. A., Han, X., Cheng, H., Chuang, J. H., & Seyfried, T. N. (2008). Cardiolipin and electron transport chain abnormalities in mouse brain tumor mitochondria: Lipidomic evidence supporting the Warburg theory of cancer *. Journal of Lipid Research, 49(12), 2545–2556. https://doi.org/10.1194/jlr.M800319-JLR200

Klement, R. J., Feinman, R. D., Gross, E. C., Champ, C. E., D’Agostino, D. P., Fine, E. J., Kämmerer, U., Poff, A., Rho, J. M., Seyfried, T. N., & Scheck, A. C. (2017). Need for new review of article on ketogenic dietary regimes for cancer patients. Medical Oncology, 34(6), 108. https://doi.org/10.1007/s12032-017-0968-4

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Moulder, D. E., Hatoum, D., Tay, E., Lin, Y., & McGowan, E. M. (2018). The Roles of p53 in Mitochondrial Dynamics and Cancer Metabolism: The Pendulum between Survival and Death in Breast Cancer? Cancers, 10(6), 189. https://doi.org/10.3390/cancers10060189

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3 comments:

  1. Alot of good info here. Could you post the researcher or author you both mentioned, Dom D'augistino or something close ? I have been off seed oils, chicken, for 9 days now after finding your podcasts and blogs. My first blood test revealed Lineloic Acid at 29% of fatty acids in my blood. Feel like I am in a race......

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    1. Hi Unknown....you had a Omega quant test for the LA? Changing the number is doable but it is a journey. As it is in your blood it's in your fat so over time it will get back in the bloodstream and used for fuel and whatever else it has the capacity to do.

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  2. Thanks. I have not used the OmegaQuant, yet. I used a serum blood test through Mayo Clinic - for serum levels. Additionally i had a micronutrient panel done (Vibrant America) that also had red cell membrane levels for EPA, AA, LA, and DHA, which was useful - and apparently more representative of dietary intake over 4 months, rather than just blood serum levels (representative of dietary intake over last 4 days). I have been off seed oils, chicken, nut butters, and pork for 2 weeks, while doing some mild detox - Carnosine, and then supporting the glucuronidation (Ellagic acid, Rosemary, Astraxanthin, Dandelion Root, Resveratrol), sulfation (Sulfophurane - Jarrow BroccoMax), and Glutathione (Glutathione, NAC) phase 2 pathways while supporting with binders. I have been adding in saturated fats, stearic acid, etc. I plan to add in IR Sauna and ramp up dosages in the coming weeks, and will be doing the Omega Quant every month or so to track progress.

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